Wise Wins Wiki War: Virtual banker stays in Wikipedia, joins elite group of listings (SL Reports) http://sl-virtual-world-news.com Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:32:15 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://sl-virtual-world-news.com/index.php/Inside-SL/Human-Interest/Wise-Wins-Wiki-War-Virtual-banker-stays-in-Wikipedia-joins-elite-group-of-listings-SL-Reports.html#josc155 You probably don't want to make comments like 'wins' as the result of the 'Article for Delection' was 'no consensus'. My position on that was Keep, simply because of that BW mention, but it's very tight, it's on the edge of being notable. You say how amazing it is that Wise is the second avatar in Wikipedia, this is silly as any of these avatars shown here: http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/04/avatar/source/1.htm have a much stronger case of entry than Wise, yet no one has created them yet. This is just an example.. Please do not introduce tabloid-like work in your normally very respectable articles. Ceeq Laborde Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:01:21 +0100 http://sl-virtual-world-news.com/index.php/Inside-SL/Human-Interest/Wise-Wins-Wiki-War-Virtual-banker-stays-in-Wikipedia-joins-elite-group-of-listings-SL-Reports.html#josc156 I agree with you that there are other avatars worthy of mention in Wikipedia. I could think of many right off the bat: jasper Tizzy, LukeConnell Vandeverre, Investor Allen, Nicholas Portocarrero, and even perhaps Sal Ackland. However, in reviewing all of these people in my mind, I am not sure any of them are more or less notable than the others. Some like Luke or Nicholas have perhaps done as much or more business than Arbitrage, but they have not garnered the continued publicity he has. One thing Arbitrage has going for him is a very positive view from the media. In rereading the article I wrote, however, I am not sure I would call it tabloid-like. Definitely biased, perhaps, as I was one of the core fighters in the Wikipedia debate. Although I do feel you are being a tad dramatic in that statement period. However even at that, I see this as something that is wayyy beyond Arbitrage at the core. The inclusion represents that real-life authorities are taking note of Virtual Worlds. I see this as a step in gaining attention from a larger audience. The things going on in Second Life are truly extraordinary, and it is about time that the "History Books" take note of that. Xavier Xavier Mohr Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:59:56 +0100 http://sl-virtual-world-news.com/index.php/Inside-SL/Human-Interest/Wise-Wins-Wiki-War-Virtual-banker-stays-in-Wikipedia-joins-elite-group-of-listings-SL-Reports.html#josc157 PS: In reference to the BusinessWeek article you mentioned... I would like to point out my disapproval of the selection of the SL avatars in that slideshow. Except obviously Anshe Chung. And except possibly the CEO of the Electric Sheep Company and **maybe, maybe** Shaun Altman, I feel like perhaps the rest of those SL residents were chosen at random without regard to their true status in the SL community. I consider myself very well-connected here and to be honest I had never heard of five of them. To be more specific... FlipperPA Peregrine of SLBoutique. Why did they not choose SL Exchange? SLB for a very long time was widely considered the joke of web-based SL shopping and has always been the underdog. SLX is by far the king of web-based SL shopping. Kermitt Quirk, Craig Altman, Fizik Baskerville, Sibley Hathor..... I have never heard of these people. I just asked three random friends and got the same response. One person there is cited as earning $90,000 USD a year through SL. It is impressive, but I can name at least two or three people I know directly that earn over $100k USD a year. I can name probably 12 to 15 more that I know earning in excess of $50k USD. (Stepping aside... I wish I could make any of those amounts here! LOL!) I think a lot of people confuse money for celebrity. Celebrity is gained through a *combination* of press coverage, strategic business moves, influence over a large number of people, and then... yes... money. If you are a scripter earning $100k USD (yep, they exist!) a year through SL, but your work only affects the clients you do the work for and you really aren't noticed by anyone else... you obviously don't deserve a celebrity status. Just my two cents. I would guess from looking at the avatars mentioned in that slideshow that the person compiling that article didn't do alot of research aside from maybe *asking* one or two existing contacts who the notables in SL were. I also think that random selection was somewhat intended in that piece period... and that they weren't really going for who was most notable. =) Just my opinion - the way I am seeing it. Xavier Mohr Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:33:44 +0100