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Written by Xavier Mohr   
Friday, 08 February 2008

By Xavier Mohr
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Although I have been absent from Second Life recently, one of our great contemporary issues – somewhat related to the virtual world – has captivated my attention recently: online support of political candidates.

Perhaps it is my disassociation from the virtual world of late that gives me the courage to write today about the faux-pas subject of politics. As I have said on a number of occasions... deal with it or read something else! LOL

I have been watching amazedly the social networking sites, blogs, news site comments, and chatrooms over the last six months or more. With Super Tuesday now behind us, it's interesting to look at whose Internet followings came through for the cause, and whose failed miserably.

My first, and most obvious example, is Ron Paul. Over the past several months, this man has possibly amassed one of the largest and most devoted online followings of any U.S. presidential candidate. His supporters are educated, loyal, and quick to point out favorable stances on issues affecting the American people.

The problem with Ron Paul, of course, has been converting individuals within this Internet fan base into campaign contributors. Lest we forget, without money most presidential campaigns are doomed to joke references on the Tonight Show and pity invites to debates dominated by more viable candidates.

The Ron Paul example goes to show us that there is no replacement for a real-world presence... which takes a lot of money. Television, radio, and newspaper ads are key in swaying the opinions of undecided voters. Speeches at universities, town hall meetings, and small-town cafes create invaluable soundbites that help solidify votes.

Hillary Clinton is another prime example of the waxing-and-waning nature of Internet followings. Roughly 8 to 12 months ago, the online support for Hillary would have led any casual observer to believe she was the shoe-in for not only the Democratic nomination, but as the winner of the General Election itself this coming November. Now, however, it would appear that she is fighting for supremacy from an ever-distant second place.

Despite the growing use of our electronic medium, it would appear that Americans – and citizens of the world in general – have not yet shallowed themselves to exclusive following of the hype they see online. Of interesting note is the '08 GOP frontrunner this year – John McCain.

John McCain has suffered miserably... incessantly... from virtually no online following, and in fact has possibly been subject to more taunts and torments from the electronic community than anyone else in this campaign. Yet, the man emerged the clear favorite for the Republican nomination on Super Tuesday.

Perhaps these examples go to show an underlying conservative streak in all human beings across the planet. While we readily participate in online communities, we do not reserve or limit ourselves to the hype that is all too common in our favorite websites and forums. Perhaps for all of us, there is still an inherent amount of trust in all things tangible, existent in the real world.

The shining exception to all of this, of course, is Barack Obama. But more than an exception, maybe this simply hints at the correct way of how to use online media... as a synergistic relationship to real-world efforts.

Obama himself had a thin and scant online following only a few months ago, which has now grown to dominate the entire election process on the heels of his charismatic speeches, favorable political attitudes, and an ever-growing – viable – real-world campaign that other candidates can only dream of having at this stage in the game. Perhaps Obama's inner circle has come to realize that most people use the Internet as a support and research mechanism for their real-world beliefs, values, and interests.

In any event, I think that – at least this time around – people still value real-world efforts, and rarely base their core beliefs exclusively on those of the online community. I expect we'll see this realization played-up and manipulated during the next round of Senatorial elections, and even more so in the 2012 presidential campaigns.

In politics, the Internet has proved an invaluable tool... but has also proved it cannot singlehandedly support or sustain one's campaign. It has – again – proved to be a support tool only.

As a Democrat who grew up in a prosperous, booming society during the Bill Clinton years, my mind has been made up for a long time. I believe that Hillary Clinton has the right stuff to make the United States work again. Her favorable views on human rights, national healthcare, foreign diplomacy, and national security speak to my core values. Beyond ideas, however, I believe that experience is key in making change happen. No candidate... be it Hillary, Obama, McCain, or Huckabee... will be able to follow through with their entire agenda in their first year, first term, or entire presidency.

Wars happen, congressional control shifts happen, disasters happen... it's through experience that a successful leader can stick to his or her core values, negotiate with opposition, and make as many changes as possible given the circumstances. Ideas are great, but they don't make the world go around.

But on the ideas front, Obama is not a bad candidate. He stands for change, which American desperately needs right now. My only issue with him is that a presidency by no means operates on happy thoughts alone. His thinly-veiled circle-talk on in-depth issues leads me to believe that in the face of serious circumstances, he would falter... acting on poor thinking and rush judgement rather than experience-based, coordinated decision-making.

In any event, it must be said that neither of the Democratic candidates this year turn me off per say. At their cores, both Hillary and Obama stand for the values I feel would truly benefit this great republic. My Clinton-Obama dream ticket seems far-fetched given recent issues... which is sad considering each seems to have what the other lacks – Obama with charisma, and Hillary with experience. However, I still have hope for my country... and still believe that – given the alternative – Americans will decisively choose one of the two in the General Election.

John McCain is just... ugggh.... Bush in a different body. His supply-side Reagan economics do not work by any stretch of the imagination... a fact to which President Reagan's own son, Ron Reagan, readily admitted on network television last week. McCain is ready and willing to stay in Iraq (quoting) for "another 100 years." His talk of (quoting) "an ailing Washington culture" blatantly omits his own track record of inconsistency in the Senate... a record that neither Democrats nor members of his own party approve.

I swear that the GOP creates these candidates from an unchanging mold. I just hope that – like me – Americans are sick of conservative political robots and ready for some logic in government.

If there is one positive impact, though, that the Internet has had in the '08 elections it is definitely awareness. More people in more countries are excited about a change in American government... and rightfully so, in my opinion.

Just my two cents, of course! I'll catch you all on the flip-side.

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Silverblade Dagger - Politics...   | 2008-02-08 17:21:30
With all due respect, I don't think a Clinton should ever be back in the White House unless the President invites them or they pay for the tour.

Hillary doesn't stand for anything except for what is popular at that given moment. What may be popular isn't always what is right.On top of that, this country doesn't need a socialist in sheep's clothing. What experience does she have? Being married to a former President doesn't exactly grant experience points on a resume unless terrorizing White House staff and withholding/hiding documents is part of the job requirement. Being associated with multiple shady people and in many shady situations isn't giving her any points in terms of "bringing real change to Washington" either. In terms of actual legislative experience, who was a Senator first, Obama or Hillary?

As for Obama, sure he's a nice guy, talks about change a lot, but what changes? His inexperience is his downfall, and I'm sure that it'll take people back to the classic Reagan vs. Mondale debate in that regard. I can't honestly say I know much about him, but I've heard a lot of his rhetoric, and well, I'd pick him over Hillary any day.

McCain is a RINO, a Republican In Name Only. While claiming to be a true conservative, he can barely stand on any of the three main core pedestals of conservatism. Invoking the name of Reagan doesn't make him a conservative, and his voting record may well define him more as a liberal Republican than anything else. While he may gain a supposed wider appeal, his alienation of the base for which he supposedly represents will only come back to hit him in the face.

Ron Paul is only interesting due to his strict adherence to the Constitution. Personally, I would agree with Paul on many things, except that the actions he wants to take are not plausible given the circumstances the country and the world are in right now. Being a Constitutionist, at least by what he represents of one, means that our country has to revert to being an isolationist nation. Isolation didn't help during WWI, and didn't help leading into WWII. As the super-power in the world we must protect our foreign interests and be immediately available to assist our allies. A lot of his principles and beliefs are well and good, but I just don't see him as an effective president, or one who could win the White House.

With my opinions of the candidates noted above, I am still obliged to vote this November. A lot of people say we must "vote for whoever we think can win", or "pick the lesser of two evils". In that case we're screwed because when you pick between the two evils, you are still picking an evil even if it's not as bad. So this election cycle, I am writing in my candidate of choice. It might not be an effective vote, and some would say I'd be throwing it away, but I could at least have a clear conscience about it later. I wanted someone who would protect the borders, kill the terrorists, and punch the hippies, and for me, only Fred Thompson would have been suitable for that job in my eyes.

Xavier, you think the GOP mass produces candidates from the same mold, I think you need to may need to inspect more closely and study the Democratic Party with that same inspective eye. In my view, Americans are sick of "political robots" of both sides, since both sides make up the Congress which has an approval rating lower than even the President. Logic will never be a part of government, since the purpose of government is to take something simple and complicate it, then replicate it till it's redundant and make other people (citizens) pay taxes for what we don't need or can afford. That is the only true bi-partisan accomplishment they can do. We should not need government, they should need us.

Honoris Causa...
Silverblade Dagger
Xavier Mohr - Ahhh Yes, Politics...   | 2008-02-08 19:35:48
Quote:
Xavier, you think the GOP mass produces candidates from the same mold, I think you need to may need to inspect more closely and study the Democratic Party with that same inspective eye.


I do agree, actually. This entire primary process has brought some very ugly realities to light about the Dems... for me anyway. We've not always been THIS way, and it's definitely not the party of Bill Clinton and Al Gore that I signed up for! I guess for me there is a line between being "helpfully liberal" and liberal to an extreme and divisive point. I am holding my breath and crossing my fingers for some positive changes very SOON.

My preferred candidate was totally out of the process long before Super Tuesday. BUT, the most important thing for anyone to do IMHO... regardless of political affiliation... is to VOTE. I may be a little old-school, but I believe that participation in the democratic process is a civic duty, not some optional right to exercise at will.
thx1138 Vanbeeck   | 2008-02-08 21:30:53
i am with the democrats all the way. how could promises of increased taxes and regulation of business not improve an economy that is heading toward recession?

oh, and ron paul, please phone home, your mother is worried about you, lol.
Silverblade Dagger - re:   | 2008-02-09 03:57:53
thx1138 Vanbeeck wrote:
i am with the democrats all the way. how could promises of increased taxes and regulation of business not improve an economy that is heading toward recession?


There is a historical truth to the saying, "No nation in the world has ever taxed itself into prosperity." It just doesn't happen and besides, who knows how to spend your money better than you do? The government spends like it has all the money in the world, and it's not their money but ours.

Dems want to tax the rich, which to us non-rich people SOUNDS good, but when you realize that the rich are the ones to pay way more than 75% of all the taxes, why tax them more and essentially punish them for being successful? Think of it like this: You are pushing a snow shovel across your driveway. There comes a point where the snow piles up so much in front of you that you can't move forward any more. If the shovel was a person and the snow was taxes... see what I mean and where I'm going with this?

On the topic of regulation, the government can't even regulate itself, so what makes you think they are suitable for regulating other people's business?

The money must flow like a river, and not be held up by the dam government (pun intended). Voting for people who think they know better than we do about how to spend our money seems insane to me. If I need someone to do that for me, I'll hire an accountant. Let them survive on our table scraps, not us survive on theirs.

We all should vote this November. Those who don't have no right to complain about who gets in office due to their unwillingness to do their civic responsibility paid for by the blood of our patriots.

Honoris Causa...
Silverblade Dagger
Xavier Mohr - It's Me Again, Margaret...   | 2008-02-09 07:03:56
Tax issues in general are difficult and often over-simplified for political purposes.

You cannot simply attribute higher taxes to Democrats, either nationally or regionally. If you want to point out pro-tax, pro-spending individuals like Ted Kennedy (who I like less and less as both he and I get older) that is totally fine... or even Republicans with their famous pet projects over the last decade (And Yes, Dems... same thing... decade before that). These people exist on both sides of the aisle.

I should say, however, that there are Democrats who stand for moderate spending and LOWER taxes, or for tax reform... and vice-versa with the Republicans.

You cannot simply position yourself as being "for higher taxes" or "for lower taxes," though. That is again... overly simplistic. What we need is TAX REFORM. Sure, some of the big corporations need to have their tax cuts taken away... that's for damn sure! We should penalize the companies who are keen to ship jobs overseas, or companies that treat their employees poorly or pay below the national average.

But we should also be giving tax incentives to innovative companies, home-based technology businesses, businesses that treat their employees well. Tax cuts and incentives to lower-income or struggling families. There IS a balance to be found, but nobody seems willing to look for it out of fear of offending certain constituencies.

In short, yes we need to raise taxes... in certain areas. And yes, we also need to lower them... in certain areas. It's not about an across-the-board hike or decrease in either direction... it's again, about REFORM.

And government size and regulation, in my opinion, is not as important as government efficiency. We could have a government twice the size of what it is now, twice as regulated, but triple as effective. The problem we run into with government expansion is bureaucracy, which leads to higher spending and ineffectiveness.

The main problem with "all things politics" is an underlying flaw in the American democratic system as a whole: necessary division. Balanced, moderate reformists are discouraged from participating in the process.

In America, you basically have two choices if you want to get elected: Democrat or Republican. Sure, you can register Independent and still run for office, but you are distancing yourself from the funding and exposure that could actually get you elected.

The answer to this problem may lie in something we all love to hate hate: Political Action Committees (PACs). It's fabulous anytime likeminded people circumvent the party system by forming groups united around a particular belief or issue. Although... at present the government regulation of PACs, and the operations of PACs themselves, make them more a part of the problem than part of the solution.

So... time and again... balanced, moderate reformists push their views to the left or to the right... to the Dems or to the GOP... to make their candidacies more viable.

Same issue with voters, I might add, for the same reason! I would LOVE to register as an Independent... but doing so under my state's voting rules would exclude me from the entire primary process and totally dissolve any support structure I have for my own political opinions. And, it's the same story with other jurisdictions across the country.

I am disappointed with ALL the candidates this year... Democrat and Republican, both. I am left-leaning simply based on where, how, and when I was raised, but confess what we need in Washington right now are true moderates, willing to negotiate and compromise for the common good of vastly different constituencies.

XM
Arbitrage Wise   | 2008-02-09 08:50:38
I am pretty confident that if either McCain, Obama, or Clinton becomes president, that nothing will change. We will still be at War, Hillary vs Iraq, Obama vs Pakistan, and McCain vs Iran. They will still continue to spend and bankrupt the US, and further devalue the dollar. And to compensate for all of that, they'll just increase tax. The middle class as we know it will start to become poorer and poorer.

I've NEVER cared about politics or the government because I think the political system itself is corrupted. It's no longer the people that have the saying of what goes on in America, it's the rich and elite. Money is Power, and you can all see that with Big Businesses buying the government to do whatever they want.

It's time we all wake up. This War on Terror is NEVER going to be won, because terror is in us, and we'll never win a war on ourselves. It's only meant to be sustained so that we can all give up our freedom and liberty to Big Brother, while benefiting the rich bankers who are loaning money to the government to pay the big defense contractors - it's all about the money.

Did you know that the Patriot Act allows the government to arrest you without a warrant, detain, and imprison you without a right to trial or lawyer? And now, with the Protect America Act of 2007, the government can wiretap anyone without a warrant, international or domestic? All in the name of 'terror'

It is a Brave New World.... thought crimes are now punishable.
IntLibber     | 2008-02-12 12:16:55
Xavier, the fact is you missed noticing that Ron Paul HAS converted his following into cash: he's raised more than any other republican.

The unusual thing about his campaign is that despite meeting EVERY test of being a "top tier candidate" the media persisted in ignoring him, or at best calling him a long shot with no hope of winning. FOX NEWS snubbed him entirely from their debate in NH, while inviting Giuliani who polled lower than Paul.
Xavier Mohr   | 2008-02-12 13:59:55
@Int - I am not certain from what I have seen that (comparatively speaking) Ron Paul is a major cash cow. Paul's main problem is the Republican heirarchy (which ties in directly to FOX snubbing him) would never allow him to be a top-tier candidate even if he had all the money in the world because of some of his moderate and progressive views (a shame, really).

The media bias this year goes beyond Ron Paul, though. Every network is unfairly promoting a particular candidate. Look at CNN with Obama. Some CNN's latest headlines:

CNN Politics wrote:
Analysis: Obama has advantage in weeks ahead


CNN Politics wrote:
Without superdelegates, Clinton trails


CNN Politics wrote:
Obama beats two Clintons in one day


CNN Politics wrote:
Cafferty: No new scandals in another Clinton White House?


CNN Politics wrote:
Obama rolls into Potomac primaries after weekend sweep


CNN Politics wrote:
Obama bests Clinton against McCain


I have nothing against Obama... and who knows? He MIGHT even be a good President (For God's Sakes Don't Tell Anyone I Said That - LOL). The prob I have is - like a lot of Democrats - I feel like he is being pushed down my throat without any explanation as to why I should vote for him. More than that, his supporters persist in launching nasty attacks against Hillary (Go to YouTube and do a search for "Obama" - basically ANY video) that would - even if he were an experienced, qualified candidate - dissuade me from getting excited about his campaign.

Same story with Republicans and McCain. This is a guy that has alienated the conservative base more times than anyone can count, yet he is being shoved down their throats by Republican leaders.

I think that this year, along with Independent voters, this election will be decided by disenfranchised party voters who just can't live with their party's choice. It's already been established that a number of moderate Republicans are voting for Hillary or Obama if McCain gets the nomination (and it looks like he will), and likewise a number of upset Democrats say that if Obama gets the nomination they will vote for McCain.

Both parties - the Dems in particular - are seemingly being split down the middle by their very own "my way or the highway" party leaders. What we need - both parties - is a unifying candidate, or President/VP ticket... but both parties have made it exceedingly clear that that will not happen.

My fear as a Democrat is that in the General Election, the McCain/Huckabee ticket will be the unified ticket... with Obama having selected one of his divisionalist fanboys instead of Hillary as VP running mate... disenfranchising all the Hillary voters and swinging them to McCain's corner.

I've never really had a lot of respect for Independents until this year... and all I can say is that if my state's voting rules were different, I would change to Independent in a heartbeat.

This is the most ridiculous, divisive, unrepresentative group of candidates I have ever seen. And again, the media and our party leaders are pushing the far-left and far-right candidates down our throats as if we're stupid enough to fall for it.

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Enniv Zarf - WHAT!     | 2008-02-12 14:03:40
First of, McCain is by far the person the REPUBLICANS ARE NOT SHOVING DOWN their throats. He was in fact the underdog behind Romney and Huckabee. The conservative Republicans wants anyone but McCain. The reason why McCain got support were all from the moderate Republicans who likes what he really stands for.

The problem with this country which is shown here in this blog as a microcosmo is that everyone thinks there's only 2 sides of everything. There are liberals and conservatives. THAT IS NOT HOW REALITY WORKS...and that is why McCain took a lead. People do actually think and when conservatives who are economic conservatives but not necessarily total social conservatives finally voted for someone on the Republican side that's not a total social conservative, says that there are a HUGE portion of Republicans that are more liberal then we may want to label people.

And yes, just like the tax issue Xavier talked about, it's NEVER THAT SIMPLE!!!!! Labels are for people who are too lazy to figure out the real issues. Both sides wants to lower taxes and raise taxes. In general the Dem wants to lower taxes for the lower income people and raise them for higher income, while the Republicans are more interested in lowering taxes for the upper income and pretty much keep the lower income people with the same. However NOT ALL DEM AND REP see it this way. That's the general party's outlook. But no, personally I don't believe in raising taxes for anyone, but that some extreme tax cuts may need to be ended. Tax incentives to keep jobs in the US are great. Keep in mind that Bush just sent down a nice tax refund too this year so things are NEVER that simple. In the end, people do want to make this country better, it's just that they see things differently.

As for the whole war thing, Arbitrage is absolutely right except I'm not sure about Obama. But no, both Hillary and McCain will not pull out of Iraq. Hillary may pull out just a little bit as a symbolic gesture...but don't count on a complete withdrawal because they all know it's a war (whether we went in it for the right reasons or not) that we cannot afford to lose. And in fact things are turning out a little better now then before. I don't care for any of the arguments about it was not the right war, or it was wrong to get in it. Bush was right or wrong is completely irrelevant for the next President. The next President is to deal with the situation at hand and that is we are in a war, and there are Terrorist who are determined to bring down the US at any cost. They don't care what this country say or do or who's President. They don't care if it's Dem or Rep, far left or far right. They only want this country to be wiped off the face of this planet because it's not Muslim according to their interpretation of Muslim. The ironic thing is that they think the US is a Christian country, and that Christianity is bad because it promotes promiscuity and liberalism. In reality, who they really hate is the hollywood liberals (and yes I work in Hollywood and I'm a Christian - irony). If they knew the truth of far right amerian, they just may change their tune and suppport them in destroying the far left. But then it's the far left that sees are being overly sympathetic to these people. Oh the irony!!!!!!!!!!

As for the whole Obama/Hillary thing, no, I don't think Obama should be elected because people like him. That's just as bad as voting for Hillary because her husband was President. Yes Obama's been a senator longer then Hillary, but THAT'S ON THE STATE LEVEL. Hillary has been the first lady for 8 years and you don't be the first lady of the US without learning something about international politics. So in terms of qualifications on the experience side, Hillary definitely has a lot more then Obama. And yes, Hillary is an opportunist who says what people want to hear. But at least we all know that already and know what to really expect from her presidency if she gets elected. A pretty moderate president who's going to try to please the American people and hear what people are thinking and then try to do things that the people want...wait...isn't that what the President is supposed to do in part, is to listen to the people and then pander to them....I thought they are supposed to represent us. We forget that politicians do in fact need to sometimes listen to the people and then give us what we want EVEN if we are wrong, because that's what this government is supposed to be. It goes both ways people. They need to take a stand on why they were elected, but they also need to be actively listening and then change their minds on things too. Anyways, with Clinton, at least I know what I'm going to get. With Obama...seriously what kind of a Presidency is he going to run is anyone's guess. So far he has not given out any real definitive direction of change he's going to make. And no...if you think the President of the US can really make that much changes, you are living on a different planet. Look at all the stuff Bush wanted to do...like with social security...he really wanted to change...and I wanted that change desperately...but what happened...NOTHING!!!! The President only has so much power, it's not unlimited. To go in with a platform of change with no clear outline of what is he really going to do except hire the right people in the cabinet is just a pipe dream. Anyone can stand up there and say I will change things, but dude, NO ONE...NOT MCCAIN, NOT CLINTON, NOT OBAMA will be able to make real changes without the full support of the congress....and you think Obama who's much further left than Clinton and McCain will actaully get that kind of support from the right? Dream on! both Hillary and McCain have a better chance of doing that then Obama, and even they have their stumbling block. Hillary being a Clinton that the right just hates and the far left thinks she's selling out. McCain being too socially liberal for even the far right to completely embrace him.

POLITICS IS NOT THAT SIMPLE AND STRAIGHT FORWARD. No one will really make any real changes. Things will be pretty much the same. I rather have a moderate in the white house at this time because America needs that. A moderate is the only kind of President who's actually going to be able to make anything happen in a time where the country is fairly equally divided on both sides of the isle.
Anonymous   | 2008-02-12 15:22:36
Enniv Zarf wrote:
First of, McCain is by far the person the REPUBLICANS ARE NOT SHOVING DOWN their throats.

LOL - With all due respect Enniv, you are in California... your state would have voted for McCain anyway. The GOP in California and the GOP in the rest of the country are two VERY different animals.
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