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ACE & BNT: The past, the present, and the future of it all 

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Written by Xavier Mohr   
Sunday, 18 November 2007

By Xavier Mohr, CEO
SLReports.net

[Editor's Note: This profile will be the first of several I post about the various exchanges here inside Second Life. Be sure to keep track as we speak with each of the exchange heads to hear about their plans for the present and future, and their outlooks on the SL economy as a whole!] 

There's been a lot of buzz in the financial community lately: bank collapses, corporate scandals, and ever-changing standards in Second Life's financial market. In all of this a lot of folks have overlooked the launch of the Ancapistan Capital Exchange (ACE)... Second Life's newest securities exchange. I thought it was about time for SL Reports to change course and ask a few questions.

ACE Chairman IntLibber Brautigan, most recognizable as the controversial and outspoken CEO of Brautigan & Tuck Holdings (ACE: BNT), was kind enough to sit back and chat with me Saturday night about his new stock exchange, the past, present, and future of his businesses. It was truly interesting.

What I thought would be a simple question and answer session turned into over an hour of discussion about Second Life's financial markets, Brautigan & Tuck, other exchanges, and the virtual world economy in general.

If you think this is going to be the quick and dirty post I am famous for, bookmark the page and come back later. I don't intend to be short and sweet this time. If you're looking for answers to your questions about ACE and an inside look at one of Second Life's most infamous and shrewd businessmen, however, sit back and enjoy.

IntLibber Brautigan started Second Life almost a year ago with roughly $200.00 USD earned from Google AdSense . Since that time, Brautigan has enjoyed a number of successes including growth of one of the largest estate companies on the grid and the recent launch of the Ancapistan Capital Exchange - ACE as it is regularly called.

According to Brautigan, the journey began with Brautigan & Tuck Holdings, a publicly-listed Second Life corporation often criticized for its huge market cap.

Partially explaining the misconception, Brautigan commented, "I built BNT from the ground up."

"We were not a startup," explained Brautigan. "BNT was worth 70k at auction when we IPOd... 70k USD"

After a short-lived relationship and listing with the World Stock Exchange (WSE), Brautigan & Tuck Holdings moved to Investor Allen's AVIX exchange. BNT remained listed on AVIX beyond its purchase by Arbitrage Wise and rebranding to the SL Capital Exhcange (CapEx) before being delisted in September because of irreconcilable differences.

Shortly afterwards - at the end of October - ACE was born. I asked IntLibber... with four exchanges and rumors of another coming soon, why did he feel the need to start ACE.

Said Brautigan, "Firstly, our estates are focused on business, headquartering an exchange here has always been in the plan."

"We had the WSE here, and AVIX here, and found that others running exchanges were not reliable for our estates stability," continued Brautigan. "Kids with code in their pockets have no appreciation for the maturity and stability required to build an exchange that fosters widespread public confidence."

IntLibber continued on this track, mentioning that none of the other exchanges have ever met BNT's standards. He further expressed disappointment at the "old boy in-groups" that only allow their friends to raise capital.

"If other exchanges met our standards, there would be no need for ACE," said Brautigan. "We are now focusing on building the sort of exchange that we see as the type we want to trade in, that is for the betterment of all of SL, and is open to all to raise capital provided they meet common standards."

I mentioned to IntLibber the recent financial dramas Second Life has seen... and the corresponding drop in trading volume at all of our virtual world exchanges. He happily explained how ACE intended to correct that.

"By operating by higher standards, and setting the example for other exchanges to operate by, we will revitalize in-world confidence," stated Brautigan. "We will also bring in new capital, new investors, to expand the capital base in SL."

I also talked to IntLibber about the overall 'reality' of stock trading in Second Life, reminding him that each exchange in Second Life had a seemingly different view of how "real" or "fake" the Second Life economy was. There was no sidestepping with his view on this topic.

"As you likely saw on Metanomics, we do not see SL as a game," Brautigan sharply replied. "The Linden Dollar is not fiction. Our stock market is not a game either - its an insult to assert such and damages the publics confidence."

"Why should they invest in someone who calls their money fictitious?" he asked rhetorically.

I mentioned to IntLibber a concern of my own at this point. I cited to him my own observation that while parties such as Robert Bloomfield of Cornell University - known as "Beyers Sellers" in Second Life - often tout the  Second Life economy as real and important for others to consider as real, they frequently avoid the subject of real-life legal compliance.

I asked Brautigan... if he were approached by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) or Internal Revenue Service (IRS) concerning his Second Life activities, if he were confident that he would be compliant with expectations. He answered readily.

"Yes," Brautigan stated with no hesitation. "With regard to the IRS, Second Life is a 'black box'. As long as people report the income they take out at currency exchanges, then they are compliant with IRS regs."

With regard to the Securities and Exchange Commission, according to IntLibber, Second Life stocks are considered microcaps.

"The SEC has very limited requirements with regard to microcaps," he explained. "... and Beyers Sellers is a supporter of the SLEC (Second Life Exchange Commission) concept. He has his students writing letters to the SEC advising no action."

According to its website, the SLEC exists to establish private, voluntary, standards of performance, operations, and ethics for Second Life Stock Exchanges, corporations, stock brokers, traders, and holders... enforcing said standards through market pressure and publicity.

"The exchange we are building at ACE, as described in our prospectus, encapsulates everything we have accomplished at the SLEC," Brautigan added. "ACE will be a model SLEC exchange when we are done. If the other exchanges meet our standards too, then thats all for the good for SL in general."

With regard to the SLEC, IntLibber advised, "The SL public needs to realize that the SLEC is protecting them as much from government regulation as it is from fraudulent companies and poorly run exchanges."

The SLEC of course has been a controversial topic in the SL investing community, with residents scoffing that the organization is unfairly biased towards BNT and ACE.

IntLibber assurred, "While I founded the SLEC, I am not its chair... contrary to many claims. [TraderJohn Susa] only made me co-owner to help ease succession issues if he was indisposed."

ACE reportedly has confidence in TraderJohn Susa's abilities to serve as Chairman of the SLEC. "He has some personal health issues right now," said Brautigan. "But if he cannot come back, then Patrickj Ah becomes the Chairman."

I asked Brautigan to explain to me why the investing public should not be concerned about a SLEC bias towards ACE or BNT.

"I am only one seat on the board," he explained. "There are now 7 seated, counting the ISE exit. Four of those are popularly elected, so the public is now the majority on the board... which is how it should be."

I asked IntLibber directly, "IntLibber, if a public board on the SLEC questioned one of your decisions as ACE chairman, would ACE - since it is a member - consider the SLEC's concerns and consider any suggested change in action?"

"Yes," he replied. "So long as it was within the purview of the SLEC. If I violated an SLEC standard unknowingly, I expect to be corrected on it. In fact we did so."

Brautigan went on to explain that when ACE was handling the IPO of Express Shopping Network (ACE: ESN), he had forgotten about the "60% Rule" which mandates that a CEO may not hold more than 60% of company shares. The violation was corrected.

Moving along in the questioning, I asked Brautigan if ACE planned to cooperate and work with other Second Life stock exchanges.

"I think that ACE is quite ready for other exchanges to cut the sniping and other behaviors and get to working together to improve investor confidence," IntLibber said. "We've been perceived as being negative [but] the facts show that there was a large degree of what RL would consider criminal acts against BNT by various parties. We have a right to feel aggrieved... however, we are more interested in putting those feelings behind us for the greater good."

I mentioned to IntLibber my observation that while CapEx and ACE were closest to one another - out of all the exchanges - in regard to goals and policy, there is seemingly the most tention between CapEx and ACE. I asked him if he agreed with this, and asked about the current status of relations between the two exchanges.

Brautigan stated, "I have not spoken with people at CapEx much at all. BNT was poorly treated by CapEx, far worse than one would expect an exchange to treat its largest customer."

"But thats the past," he conceded. "... and some of my actions were misinterpreted by people at CapEx."

Looking to the future of the Ancapistan Capital Exchange, Brautigan clarified a bit about IPO policy and coming upgrades to his exchange software.

According to Brautigan, ACE does require real-life identification to be provided by IPO applicants.

I confronted him with a recent assertion here at SL Reports by columnist Guardian Market that there is no reason for exchanges to keep real-life IDs of CEOs - considering most real-life attorneys would simply subpoena Linden Lab for the CEO's account information. He explained his position.

"Because starting a case, you have to convince a judge that Flappy McDoodle is someone you could rationally risk thousands of dollars with," said Brautigan. "In order to get a subpoena [that] is a legal hurdle that investors shouldn't have to deal with."

Down the road, ACE will also be implementing stock options and futures into their software.

"All the trained analysts know that options help rationalize a market and provide natural price regulation," he said. "So long as those options are all covered options, and we provide training to traders before they start trading those options, then I think this will be a valuable addition to our product line."

Brautigan explained the reasoning for futures was somewhat similar, but furthered that market futures are a good measure of market direction.

"Beyers Sellers has been advocating [futures] for some time," he explained. "I respect his arguments that he's made far more eloquently than I can here."

"Beyond just stocks, look at the land market," Brautigan went on to explain. "The land market is huge but price signals are badly distorted. This is because LL doesn't count PayPal payments for land. Their average prices are seriously below real market averages."

"With land futures," Brautigan cited, "we will help rationalize the land market and give people a rational basis to price their land more accurately. This will also help elimate the market use of land bots by narrowing the perceived vs. real price spread... it makes land bot operations less profitable."

I asked IntLibber where he expected ACE to be three months down the road. He was happy to reply.

"I am very bullish on ACE," he said. "Most people have no clue what we've got planned. While the WSE basically ripped off our prospectus for their "WSE 4.0" almost as soon as it was released, thats merely the first step in our long term plans."

Brautigan expects ACE to have between 20 and 30 companies listed within 3 months, and that there will be a 'tipping point' coming soon.

"My appearance on Metanomics resonated very strongly with the investing public," he explained. "We are very happy with that show and expect future press relations to expand ACE's positive public image."

I concluded our interview here, thanking IntLibber for the time but also asking if he had any closing remarks. He concluded our conversation with enthusiasm.

"I am passionate about my business, i work very hard at it and take it very seriously," he said. "I take my investors money very seriously. While some have twisted my passion to portray it as arrogance or negativity, once people get to know me one on one they realize thats all spin by those who resent the standards we hold."

And I do have to give IntLibber credit. Despite his negative portrayal by readers here, users of other exchanges, and through other media outlets, the overall tone of our interview was positive and exciting.

SL Reports will be keeping track of the Ancapistan Capital Exchange as it progresses into the future of our virtual world. We'll stay in touch with IntLibber, and we'll be watching with interest.

I thank Mr. Brautigan for taking the time to speak with me. It was truly an enlightening conversation.

Stay tuned to SLReports.net for more information.

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SLReports.net User - Options and Futures   | 2007-11-18 18:48:48
Is a good point about options and futures but I wonder if the market is mature enough to handle such advanced concepts
Flappy McDoodle - what future?   | 2007-11-18 18:55:21
Ahh IntLibber, we meet again. you tried to convince me to invest that thousands of dollars into ACE, when in reality, the name IntLibber Brautigan has been heard all throughout SL (and not in the good way). i was camping a few weeks ago and someone accidentally stood up and their seat was taken. they said "i pulled an IntLib".

and now with the statement that you released telling all companies to delist from WSE, well that was just BS and i think, will be the end of BNT and ACE. you used the SLEC in a way that is completely irresponsible. It is in your best interest, and that of all SL, if you quit while you still have some dignity left.
Samantha Goldflake - VSTEX and the script kiddies     | 2007-11-19 01:17:11
Last time I checked, there were no kiddies over at the VSTEX. All of our software tools are developed "in house" by adults who do that for a living in RL.

Advice for Brautigan: don't pretend to shake hands with your right hand when your left is holding a knife.

Starting from the ACE prospectus, you do everything to put down all of the exchanges but yours.

Standing this attitude, we have nothing to tell you. However I do agree with something you wrote:

"bullish".

Samantha Goldflake
VSTEX Communication and Public Relations Director
SLReports.net User   | 2007-11-19 01:52:19
Someday, Samantha, you will realize that not everything intlibber says is about you. Typically nothing he says is about you. As BNT was never listed on vstex, its rather obvious that none of his comments have ever been about you or vstex, including those in the ACE prospectus.
Samantha Goldflake     | 2007-11-19 02:06:53
Someday the IntLibber claque will post under some name :)

First, the ACE prospectus reads:

"There are now four stock exchanges in SL, WSE, SLCapex, ISE, and VSTEX. However, none of the newcomers have caught on sufficently to raise the bar for exchanges in SL, or done anything to bring new capital into SL."

I read the VSTEX name there.

And when he writes about "the other exchanges" all of them are included. VSTEX too.

Anyway, everything it boils down to the fact that cooperation with such a person is impossible at the time.

Except for the fact that our name is used as a keyword in the SL classified ad for the ANCAPEX and the BNT analog pocket watch (lol), there is no relationship between us and any business led by Brautigan.

Maybe he should start removing that keyword.

Samantha Goldflake
VSTEX Communication and Public Relations Director
Strange Ranger - Keyword Trademark Infringement   | 2007-11-19 03:52:31
I wasn't aware that ACE was "loading" their classified listings with infringing keywords until I just read what Samantha had written. I logged on and investigated further. It looks like ACE is using different variations of the full name and acronym for all of the other financial markets.

The conduct of one company using another company’s trade mark as a keyword is misleading or deceptive conduct and a company must not represent that it has a sponsorship, approval or affiliation it does not have. It is more likely that ACE is passing off their services as being those of other financial institutions.

For instance, searching for an exchange of a different name brought back only results for ACE.

I would urge IntLibber Brautigan to stop using these deceptive keywords in all of his advertisements and property descriptions. I would also urge the management of the other exchanges to follow up on this, quickly.

By quoting IntLibber's own words, "Kids with code in their pockets have no appreciation for the maturity and stability required to build an exchange that fosters widespread public confidence." Loading keywords of competing exchanges company names does nothing to foster any confidence, at all. This is something that kids with code in their pockets do.

ADDED: It also appears that LukeConnell Vandeverre is using this same deceptive (infringing) tactic by loading his keywords with "jt financial, slcapex".
Samantha Goldflake - Trademarks     | 2007-11-19 04:51:50
Since someone will pop up with such an argument, I'll tell that VSTEX is not a registered trademark.

That aside, VSTEX is not a common name like, for example "sun" (Sun Microsystems). In this instance, it's obvious the deceptive use of our name.

We've been aware about this for a while now. After an internal talk we decided to shrug it off for the time being, since there were already many issues between us and the ACE.

It's our belief that a serious business shouldn't adopt those cheap marketing tactics. No matter the trademark infringement that may arise.

That's just another reason to not cooperate with ACE.

Samantha Goldflake
VSTEX Communication and Public Relations Director
SLReports.net User   | 2007-11-19 08:32:58
Most classified ads in SL use multiple keywords not affiliated with their product or business. Virtually all of the exchanges use others names and acronyms, common financial terms and other terms. It's fairly common practice. This is not something unique or new. WSE has done it for months.

Looks like to me that ACE must be on to something good when all you can find to comment on is keyword search. I'll have to go check ACE out. Keywords? Really? If people can't tell the difference between WSE, ACE, and VSTEX then they don't need to be investing. "Oh since this search for VSTEX turned up an ACE and WSE result I guess that I should go there, even though I was directly looking for VSTEX." Come on, if people are not looking for for something particular don't you think they would search for "stock exchange"?

Why is that I don't see any advertising or press for VSTEX other than Samantha's constant negative commentary on Intlibber? It appears there is no marketing strategy than to make all press ACE receives somehow about VSTEX. VSTEX is a good platform. Get out there and promote it and stop wasting time on attacking ACE. No other exchange has PR officials running about attacking the other exchanges. You are just putting VSTEX in a bad light with all this bantering.
Samantha Goldflake - One could just ask...     | 2007-11-19 08:38:23
Why ACE/BNT "need" to use the names of their competitors...

Anyway "common" is not synonymous of "fair" and a competitor name is not a common financial term.

And thanks for your input about our communication strategies, anonymous yet valued anonymous user!

Samantha Goldflake
VSTEX Communication and Public Relations Director
SLReports.net User   | 2007-11-19 22:56:17
Last time I checked, ACE had significantly higher volumes already than Vstex does, and ACE is only a few weeks old, and has fewer listings than vstex does. Hmmm, much more volume per company than really any other exchange, actually. ACE must be doing something right to be getting that much action.
Samantha Goldflake - Just for the records...     | 2007-11-20 09:29:36
IntLibber Brautigan said:

"As you likely saw on Metanomics, we do not see SL as a game,"
"The Linden Dollar is not fiction. Our stock market is not a game either - its an insult to assert such and damages the publics confidence."

ACE TOS states that ACE is a game of skill, that BNT securities have no value and that the Linden Dollar does not constitute legal tender in the real word.

So, quoting from the ACE TOS, Section One - http://ancapex.net/content/tos:
22.2 Linden Dollars. By accepting these terms you indicate your understanding that the Linden Dollar virtual currency does not constitute legal tender in any real world jurisdiction as of this date. It is a product offered by Linden Labs, the operators of Second Life. The value of the Linden Dollar compared to the US Dollar and other real-world currencies is subject to change, and Linden Labs may at any time exercise certain rights that may jeopardise the convertibility of your Linden dollars to US Dollars, including but not limited to termination of or modifications to the Second Life services, or suspension of your account. These rights, when exercised, may also cause the Linden Dollars held in your avatar's account to lose most or all of their value in US Dollars. Lindex, SL Exchange, or other mechanisms by which Linden Dollars are exchanged for US Dollars are also subject to market risks and their own operators' rights to modify or suspend those services, or your access to those services. You are instructed to refer to the Linden Labs, Lindex Exchange, or other Terms of Service for additional information.
22.3 BNT securities. By accepting these terms, you indicate your understanding that the shares of virtual companies listed on the ACE exchange, or bonds, term deposits, or savings accounts issued by BNT, are not registered securities in any jurisdiction. These securities have no value and are subject to no legal restrictions on distribution, market manipulation, insider trading, or any other activity that may cause their value to change.
22.4 The ACE exchange. The ACE exchange is a game of skill that allows participants to profit from evaluating the performance of companies in the Second Life virtual economy. It is not intended as a gambling or investing tool. By accepting these terms you indicate your understanding that use of the services for gambling or investing purposes is not intended and is done at your own risk.
Regulus Arterio - Disturbing...   | 2008-01-24 07:38:32
I note with interest that Brautigan trades his own stock on his own exchange, and submits to regulatory oversight not by any real world regulatory commission, but by an SL regulatory commission he controls.

Does anybody else here smell a rat?
Regulus Arterio - Even more disturbing...   | 2008-05-02 10:10:51
IntLibber's Anacap exchange web site was taken offline over the past week to prevent a run on the exchange when it became public knowledge that he'd received a suspension for harboring high profile griefer groups on his sims, and even putting some on his payroll.

Is anybody watching this to see what happens?
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